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Aaron Knodell's avatar

Great article, and much better than using GSAx. Counting stats make no dang sense for goalies.

It continues to be baffling to me to treat misses the same as a saves from the goaltender's perspective. I think goaltender's have some influence on whether a shot is on net or misses, but the weighting between saves and misses shouldn't be even. Team defense should also have some impact on misses (less room for the shooter should make a miss more likely).

I think the best underlying metric for a goaltender has to be tracking based. Measuring their positioning relative to the puck at all times and reaction time/accuracy on shots towards them.

Appreciate the shout out! The NHL kinda blew up my model with the PBP changes; posts/crossbars increased about 150% from 2023-24 to 2024-25 making every goalie look awful the last couple of seasons. I've been thinking of revisiting it with some kind of dynamically updating model to try to account for changes in recording/gameplay.

Mike's avatar

Great article.

You mentioned "if a puck hits the post, it definitionally missed the goalie" is not necessarily true. A puck can glance of a goalie, then hit post. After that it could be a goal, or a save, which as you say is functionally a matter of luck.

I agree with Aaron that goalie tracking is required to get the best underlying metric for a goaltender.

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